"We’ll get bigger ratings using this crazy forum that you’re using, than probably the debate or the competition."
On Wednesday, Tucker Carlson posted his interview with Donald Trump just minutes before the RNC primary debate kicked off.
Since it was posted, the video has now been viewed on X, formerly known as Twitter, over 75 million times in one hour, and is fast approaching 100 million views.
Trump on Wednesday morning said that "sparks will fly," announcing that his interview would air the same time as candidates polling in second place or lower took to the stage.
"It’s debate night, but we’re not in Milwaukee," Carlson began in the interview asking why he skipped the debate.
"Well, you know a lot of people have been asking me that, and many people said you shouldn’t do them, but you see, the polls have come out, and I’m leading by 50 and 60 points, and, you know, some of them are at one and zero and two."
"And I’m saying, do I sit there for an hour or two hours, whatever it’s going to be, and get harassed by people that shouldn’t even be running for president? Should I be doing that at a network that isn’t particularly friendly to me?"
Trump said Fox News was "backing Ron DeSanctimonious like crazy, and now they’ve given up on him," adding that it’s a "lost cause."
He said that it reminded him of the 2016 election, where he had to "fight them all the way, and they they became very friendly after I won, just about when I was winning."
"But I just felt it would be more appropriate not to do the debate, I don’t think it’s right to do," he said, noting his massive lead over other opponents in the field.
"I’m saying why am I doing it? I’m going to have eight people, 10 people … screaming at me, shouting questions at me, all of which I love answering, I love doing, but it doesn’t make sense to do them. So I’ve taken a pass."
Carlson said he was "grateful" that Trump skipped the debate to do an interview with him, and asked, "you don’t feel the need now running for president to do television, obviously, do you you think television is declining?"
Trump said he saw a recent poll where cable viewership is "down like 30, 35 percent."
"I think cable’s down because it’s lost credibility. MSNBC, or as they say, MSDNC is so bad, it’s so wrong, what they write and what they do and what they say, it’s all fake news."
Trump said that MSNBC and CNN are both "dead," and are doing "absolutely. no ratings" because "they don’t have credibility. They really don’t have credibility."
"Fox is way down, as you know, and the good old days are long ago."
Speaking on Carlson’s firing from Fox News, Trump said, "Tucker, you know that better than anybody, I think it was a terrible move, getting rid of you. You had number one in television, and all of a sudden, we’re doing this interview, but we’ll get bigger ratings using this crazy forum that you’re using, than probably the debate or the competition."
This is a breaking story and will be updated.
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