BYU professor claims she doesn't 'know the morals' of abortion when a woman is 'a little bit pregnant'

"The professor is using a postmodern approach to the word, 'pregnant.' Similar to 'What Is A Woman?' We can now add, 'What Is Pregnant?'"


In a recently released recording from a women’s health class at Brigham Young University (BYU), a professor can be heard saying that she doesn't "know the morals" of taking a Plan C pill that would induce a chemical abortion in a case where a woman does not know if she is pregnant.

This is at a school that distinctly supports the anti-abortion position to the exclusion of all others. The audio, released by Cwic Media, records the professor in a lecture that addresses pregnancy and abortion.

"So is there an interspace in pregnancy? Like this article that I was diving in to say... If she had unprotected intercourse before she takes a positive pregnancy test. There's a pill she can take to just ensure. Like in this interspace like I don’t want to take a pregnancy test and I kind of don't want to know if I actually conceived. This pill will just take care of it if I did, and if I didn't."

"So this NPR podcast live episode. It's called ‘a little bit pregnant,’" the professor continued. "I don't know. I'm learning, I haven’t done enough research to actually have an opinion. And I don’t know that I necessarily will or won't have an opinion. I just want to read and listen to what is being discussed in this." [sic]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which owns BYU, has a written stance on abortion which reads "Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints must not submit to, perform, encourage, pay for, or arrange for an abortion."

The only exceptions are cases of rape, incest, when the life of the mother is in danger, or when the baby will not survive. However, as the Church states, "even these circumstances do not automatically justify an abortion." 

During the discussion, the professor asked for the thoughts of people in the class and one student replied she "doesn’t have an answer at all" to the question. 

The professor went on to talk about if this situation was a gray area for women who may be pregnant. She addressed this saying, "it feels like a dichotomous situation, like if you are pregnant, or you aren’t pregnant. Black and white, yes or no? But in this, like, a little bit."

This gave way to the topic of Roe v Wade being overturned where she said that "this Roe versus Wade, overturn. It's like, if states are limiting what women can and can't access, right? Like yes, no. Then I think we're going to see this creation of this interspace where women are saying, ‘I might be a little bit pregnant.’ And if I have access to this pill before I take a pregnancy test, I'm just gonna take this pill and decide. I don't know the morals here."

The Post Millennial reached out to Greg Matsen at Cwic Media for comment and he said, "The professor is using a postmodern approach to the word, ‘pregnant.’ Similar to ‘What Is A Woman?’ We can now add, ‘What Is Pregnant?’ She is deconstructing the word and the truth about pregnancy by saying, ‘can you be unpregnant’ and ‘maybe you can be a little bit pregnant.’ Also, she is creating a new ‘space’ she calls, ‘interspace’ clouding the truth about biology to accomplish an agenda."

The audio released by Cwic Media adds to the number of controversies that have been covered at the school such as the threatening from a professor of students who posted an assignment online as well as the BYU vs Duke Volleyball report earlier this year.


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