When asked by Kirk whether it made "rational sense for Russia to destroy their own pipeline," Grenell said that he is "very skeptical of Russia."
"I don’t believe Putin," he added. "I’ve been on the record as being very anti-Russia."
Grenell said that Russia has denied that they had anything to do with the pipeline, and that they have said that they need the money from the pipeline, but added that "Joe Biden has been clear that he wanted to destroy the pipeline."
"That clip is out there, where he has said that he was going to destroy the pipeline, and he’s even kind of dared and said, you know, mark my words."
The clip Grenell referenced to showed Biden speaking before the Ukraine invasion by Russia, warning of consequences for the nation if they continue forward.
"If Russia invades, that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine again, then there will be — there will be no longer a Nord Stream II. We will bring an end to it."
"That doesn’t really instill confidence in the American government’s handling of this," said Kirk.
"Well, not only that, I think the media are shameless for not pushing back and saying wait a minute, you're the one who dropped the sanctions here. You're the one who created this active pipeline, and now suddenly, we've got these problems," Grenell responded.
He continued on to state that, "look, the reality is it never should have gone forward."
"Donald Trump would have never allowed the sanctions to be dropped. The pressure would have been on Putin and we would not have had a war in Ukraine if Donald Trump were in the office.
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