Nina Jankowicz, former "czar" of the Biden administration's "Ministry of Truth," joined MSNBC on Wednesday to discuss how the Department of Homeland Security's Disinformation Governance Board was paused due to "disinformation."
"All these sensationalized narratives about what people thought the board was going to do was completely wrong. It was a coordinating mechanism. It was meant to make sure that the very large agency that is the Department of Homeland Security, that people were talking to each other within it," Jankowicz told MSNBC host Chris Hayes, during her first interview since her resignation.
Nina Jankowicz, head of former DHS disinformation agency, speaks out: "It wasn’t just these mischaracterizations of my work, but it was death threats against my family. Over the last three weeks, I maybe had one or two days where I didn’t report a violent threat." pic.twitter.com/LRd0Yxuw1K
— All In with Chris Hayes (@allinwithchris) May 19, 2022
Senate Democrats abruptly cancelled a hearing last week, where Jankowicz was scheduled to testify, after a multiple of her videos went viral, including one showing her bragging about being the "Mary Poppins of disinformation." Democrats were reluctant to have Jankowicz face questioning from Republicans, prompting them to scrap the event altogether, which led to the board being disbanded.
Jankowicz told MSNBC that "disinformation" surrounding the board's alleged duties led to it getting dissolved. She gave examples of different scenarios that would have been brought before the "Ministry of Truth" to decide of they were factual or not.
"Let me give you an example, FEMA, the agency that handles disasters and environmental issues, would often encounter misinformation about natural disasters. Let's say an adversary like Iran or China would put out a false narrative like this is how you get out of the city, or this is where you can find disaster aid. That could put people really into danger, their lives into danger," Jankowicz said.
She continued, "That's the sort of disinformation and misinformation that we were looking to support the department in addressing, to make sure they had best practices, and most importantly, to protect Americans' freedom of speech, civil liberties, and privacy while we are doing all that work."
"So, every characterization of the board that you heard up until now has been incorrect, and frankly, it's kind of ironic that the board itself was taken over by disinformation when it was meant to fight it," she added.
"I've been a really nuanced, reasonable person, again, as I said, I briefed and advised both Republicans and Democrats. I admired some of steps even the Trump administration took to combat disinformation."
"To say that I am just a partisan actor was wildly out of context."
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