WATCH: MSNBC says Biden’s low polls are Trump’s fault, warns of ‘Trump’s next coup’

The segment Sunday began citing The Atlantic's cover story, titled "Trump's Next Coup Has Already Begun," by staff writer Barton Gellman.

"By way of foundation for all the rest, Trump and his party have convinced a dauntingly large number of Americans that the essential workings of democracy are corrupt, that made-up claims of fraud are true, that only cheating can thwart their victory at the polls, that tyranny has usurped their government, and that violence is a legitimate response," Todd quoted, asking "hyperbolic or fact?"

MSNBC analyst John Heilemann responded, "fact." He then supported The Atlantic piece's claims. "This is 30 million people right now who are ready to take up arms," Heilemann stated on-air. "You put that together with what the president, the former president I should say, and his allies are doing in the political realm, state houses, state legislatures, and the party apparatus to be able to engineer a situation where they are in a stronger position to pull off a coup in 2024 than they were in 2020. That's not hyperbolic at all. These are all facts."

Todd pivoted, stating "it seems as if there's nothing the White House can do to improve their political standing these days. It does feel like every week there's another poll and it's a new bottom; it's a new this." However, he noted "some of it is out of their control." He added, "COVID's not behind us and Donald Trump's still lurking." Todd then asked Boston Globe senior opinion writer Kimberly Atkins Stohr: "It's not his fault, but is that why we're in this no-man's land here for him?"

She replied: "It's a convergence of a lot of things. You have this pandemic that we can't get behind. You still have people who are struggling economically."

"Joe Biden also campaigned on a big, broad agenda of protecting civil rights and getting people – helping to get people back on their feet after this, these big, broad packages. But even after these packages have passed, there is still this constant threat to democracy that we keep talking about," Atkins Stohr continued.

She said that the Democrats have failed to pass any measure to protect and bolster the election system. "So, that has people uneasy. Is it all Joe Biden's fault? Of course not. Most of it isn't," Atkins Stohr argued.

Atkins Stohr then claimed that Republicans are not allowing Biden to govern, despite Democrats having control of the presidency and Congress.

"You have Republicans who are lock solid against him and won't vote for anything, no matter how many times Joe Manchin says he wants bipartisanship. So, it's about where do you assign that blame, who is against every measure, including vaccine mandates that could get us past this pandemic. Is that Joe Biden? Where does the blame actually lie?" Atkins Stohr concluded.