WATCH: Richard Dawkins says science is the answer to trans activists claims of multiple genders in epic interview

"As a biologist, there are two sexes, and that's all there is to it," Dawkins said.

Jarryd Jaeger Vancouver, BC

On Tuesday, legendary evolutionary biologist and prominent atheist Richard Dawkins sat down with Piers Morgan on the British television host's show, Uncensored. The pair covered a lot of ground, but it was their discussion about the progressive left's push to normalize radical gender ideology that garnered the most attention from viewers.

Dawkins argued that society must push back against the notion that sex is determined by emotions, not biology, and decried the left's incessant bullying of JK Rowling as well as those who champion women's rights.

"A small group of people have been quite successful in reshaping vast swathes of the way society talks and is allowed to talk," Morgan began, citing a team of scientists who called for the replacement of terms such as "man, woman, father, and mother" in favour of "sperm-producer, egg-producer" and other "genderless" alternatives.

"It's bullying," Dawkins responded, "and we've seen the way JK Rowling has been bullied, Kathleen Stock has been bullied. They stood up to it, but it's very upsetting that this tiny minority of people has managed to capture the discourse and to really talk errant nonsense."

When asked about a potential solution, Dawkins said simply, "science."

He noted that sex and gender were not the same thing, stating that the latter was "subjective," and not something he was interested in discussing. "As a biologist, there are two sexes, and that's all there is to it," he said.

While many in the atheist community have taken a hard turn to the left, Dawkins has followed the science wherever it takes him, and has ended up making friends and enemies across the political spectrum. His advocacy for a biology-based understanding of sex has led many in the atheist community to effectively excommunicate him from the movement he helped spearhead. 

In 2021, the American Humanist Association voted to rescind a Humanist of the Year award it had presented to Dawkins 25 years prioir in 1996 over a tweet he posted comparing transgender people to trans-racial people, who identify as a different race.

When pressed on the incident by Morgan, Dawkins explained that his intention had been to get people to "discuss" why trans-racial invididuals such as Rachel Dolezal were not taken seriously while those who identified as transgender were expected to be. Dolezal lived essentially as a black American until she was ratted out by her family for being white.

"Discuss!" Dawkins reiterated. "That's what I've done all my life," but "there are people for whom the word discuss doesn't mean discuss, it means you've taken a position."

Dawkins' comments were criticized by many high profile non-believers, including "the friendly atheist," Hemant Mehta, who said it was "so damn sad" that the biologist had dared to state biological facts instead of bowing to the woke mob.

"If you'd actually read some of his 'wonderful books explaining evolution', you might understand why [Dawkins] is right," one user wrote in response to Mehta.

"It is not sad but admirable that he is unwilling to bend his knee to unscientific assertions at the altar of some pseudo religion masquerading as false kindness," another stated.

"What is 'so damn sad' is that our social discourse has become so toxic and tribal, that you couched Dawkins' statement as a 'hill to die on,' as opposed to an opinion you disagree with," yet another lamented. "Whatever happened to not throwing the baby out with the bath water?"


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