Arizona hearing on voter fraud features bombshell allegations from Trump legal team

The Arizona state legislature held an explosive public hearing with President Donald Trump's legal team on Monday to examine suspected evidence of election irregularities and voter fraud in the state.


The Arizona state legislature held an explosive public hearing with President Donald Trump's legal team on Monday to examine suspected evidence of election irregularities and voter fraud in the state.

At the Hyatt Regency in downtown Phoenix, Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani asked one witness, retired Colonel Phil Waldron: "Did you have the opportunity to examine any of the Dominion machines that we used in this election?"

Waldron, an expert on automating voting machines, answered: "Yes, sir. Our team looked at some machines and software up in Michigan."

"So you know that Dominion machines were used in Maricopa County to count the vote?" Giuliani continued. "Correct," Waldron replied, adding that the Dominion voting machines were also used in the states of Michigan and Georgia.

Waldron went on to explain that Dominion Voting Systems has acquired other voting companies, including Premier Election Solutions and Sequoia Voting Systems.

Giuliani pointed out that the latter was involved in the "very serious miscalculation of the Chicago vote" and was acquired by Smartmatic whose "roots are in Venezuela."

Former socialist Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez invested 28 percent ownership in the initial setup of the SGO election systems, Waldron alleged.

At one point, Giuliani noted that Waldron witnessed "very, very clear changes in vote in the machines" in Michigan. He then questioned how many down-ballot changes.

Waldron cited at a small precinct from Election Day to the Nov. 6 recount, the post-recount pushed from 592 to 852 ballots, total votes went from 1,068 to 1,810, and the write-ins jumped from 24 to 112.

Then Giuliani pressed on how the differences came about. "After the votes are cast, what does the machine remember other votes?"

Waldron illustrated how a vote-storing card is run against the algorithm that is placed on the USB in the tabulator—essentially, the discrepancies are the tabulation algorithms at play that can drastically change vote totals.

"Why wouldn't you just look and see if that is the correct vote? Why would you put an algorithm in that introduces an outside force to what should be an internal process?" Giuliani poked.

Waldron again emphasized that this incident was just "one instance at one recount at one small precinct."

The former director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), Chris Krebs, told 60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley that "the 2020 election was...the most secure election certainly in modern history.

Waldron was relayed this public commentary and prodded to confirm under oath that he has "seen a connection to the Internet" and personally observed "offshore [traffic] to Germany."

Ahead of the election integrity hearing, Arizona House Democrats tweeted: "Might as well have a boat parade and call it a legislative hearing. This unsanctioned unofficial circus sideshow will have no bearing or impact on @JoeBiden’s victory in Arizona."

Republican Arizona Rep. Paul Gosar rallied "all patriots to come" support Team Trump. "I will be there," he declared on Twitter.

Five challenges have been filed in Maricopa County Superior Court since Election Day; four of these cases have been dismissed. An initial hearing related to the fifth legal effort was scheduled on the same day as the hotel event and the state election canvass at the State Capitol.


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