Tech exec uses Tyler Robinson case to explain need for new understanding of how digital evidence is used in court

Vice president and field CTO for DigiCert, Mike Nelson, told Techbuzz that the issues raised in the hearing highlighted challenges that go beyond the Utah courtroom. DigiCert focuses on strengthening "digital trust."

“The judge in the Tyler Robinson case brought up a really important question: How do I know what edits were made to the video that's being presented as evidence? How do I know the extent of the modifications that have been made?"

Nelson said Judge Tony Graf’s request for the original video to be provided to establish confidence was reasonable. "The judge said, 'Can you provide the original video so that I can see it? Because I feel like that is going to give me the confidence that I can trust the video.’”

The prosecution attempted to show a compilation of surveillance camera footage on the first day of the preliminary hearing of Tyler Robinson, the man accused of killing Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk. Some alterations had been made to the footage, including highlights and zooms, and the defense objected to the altered footage being shown. Judge Graf said that the compilation could not be shown because of the alterations, and because there were not corresponding statements substantiating the alterations.

The prosecution returned on day 2 with an unaltered version of the compilation, which showed the movements of the shooting suspect through campus leading up to and following the shooting.

The edited compilation was not alleged to have been AI-generated, and Nelson noted that AI has been blamed for issues that have existed prior to the widespread adoption of AI. “It's not an AI problem, in my opinion. It's a trust problem. And trust problems can be solved,” he said.

“The message isn't that you can't edit video," Nelson said. "The message has to be there needs to be a chain of trust of those edits” He said that chain should answer questions such as what edits were made, who made the edits, when the edits were made, and what additional changes may have been made afterwards.

"Videos and photos are always going to be edited," Nelson said. "But consumers and now judges, doctors, insurance providers—there are so many situations where people are going to want verification that images have authenticity."

While metadata such as timestamps, GPS information, and camera settings can provide some context, they don’t show the whole picture. “If I go edit the photo on my iPhone, it still will say that image was captured at that time and in that location. And it does not track the changes,” Nelson said.

One solution that is emerging is called C2PA (Coalition for Content Provenance and Authenticity). Nelson said of the standard, “When an image is captured, it is digitally signed with a digital certificate and a digital signature. If it is modified, it would be signed again and it would say it was modified by this person at this date, and these are the changes that were made.”

In a courtroom scenario like that which played out in early July, a judge would be able to see the original footage, as well as a record of modifications. "The judge would be able to go in and say, 'The state of Utah made a modification on this date. They added a green circle here. They added a red circle here. They zoomed the video in,'" Nelson said.

Nelson said that the industry tends to spend money “where there's either significant pain or where there's significant opportunity.” He said that while there has not been “a ton of pain yet,” that is changing. “We're now starting to hit a pain threshold where it matters," Nelson said. “If there's a photo of your child floating around, how do you know that it has integrity? If there's a video of you doing something, how can you prove that it wasn't you doing it?"

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