BREAKING: Devon Archer says it would be ‘unsophisticated’ to believe Joe, Hunter would explicitly discuss business during numerous speakerphone calls

Carlson asked if Archer had knowledge that Hunter Biden spoke with his father about Burisma, to which Archer replied, "I don’t have knowledge of that, though I would assume it."

"I would assume it in a general sense of travel, and that kind of thing … I’ve told a lot of people in the past there was not business content conversations, it was the idea of signals and influence, the prize is enough in speaking or hearing or knowing that you have that proximity to power."

Archer said that "no one is so unsophisticated that’s been in politics for 50 years, that Hunter Biden is going to talk about, you know the last quarter’s, how many billion cubic meters of gas we pumped."

"I think a lot of the narrative gets caught up on, you know, over speculation of these conspiracy theories that are just not true. It just doesn’t work like that," he continued.

Carlson responded, "It’s enough to be sitting in a meal at Lake Como with your new Ukrainian friends and while your dad happens to put them on speaker."

"I think that’s enough. That’s, you know, the second most powerful man in the world. It’s just how the world works."

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