Civil Rights Attorney Harmeet Dhillon spoke with Fox News host Tucker Carlson Tuesday, to discuss the reports from a whistleblower within the US government that the NSA is allegedly spying on him.
"Why can't any American find out if some bureaucrat in a spy agency is reading your private email?" Tucker asked Dhillon.
"Well, you should be able to find out," Dhillon said. "And the reason I said I'm not surprised is for the last 20 years, since 9/11, I and other civil libertarians have been screaming about the Patriot Act and other laws. But dating back to 1947, our securities laws have said that the spying may only be on foreigners, not on American citizens. Our government regularly flouts that."
"I mean, you know, we have the example of James Clapper lying to Congress about spying on American citizens and gathering millions of pieces of data, phone call records, and all of that," Dhillon explained.
"And so when you ask why, well, of course, it's about this military industrial complex, the security industrial complex," she said, "and they justify the spying on Americans in the name of 'we're really focusing on foreigners' and the American data that we scoop up, they call that incidental."
"So I suspect, if you are able to find out more information about this, I think what you're going to find that you are being described as incidental," Dhillon said. "So the gathering of your information is going to be because they're really focusing on somebody else. But I want to really break that down."
"When you look at the Carter Page violations, for example, the lies to the FISA court. Does anybody think that the national security apparatus was trying to find out Carter Page’s activities and communications? No," Dhillon added.
"The trick is if they can get a surveillance order on an individual, what they're able to do, is scoop up all of the communications of all of the people who reach out to that person, texts them, even without any predicate." Dhillon said. "And so that's really where it's at. That's a huge dragnet."
Dhillon said that the current law is that the phone companies have to store this data, and that the NSA can just go dig into that "treasure trove" whenever they wish.
Carlson announced on Monday that a whistleblower within the US government alerted him that the NSA is allegedly spying on him at the instruction of the Biden administration in an attempt to take his show off-air. The Biden administration deflected questions as to the validity of this claim.
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