MSNBC pundit declares Ron DeSantis ‘far more dangerous than Donald Trump’

Jolly reportedly is a former Republican congressman who served in Florida’s 13th district. He left the party during the Trump era, and around the same time joined MSNBC as a contributor and was a critic of former President Trump.

Speaking near the end of his show, show host Mehdi Hasan asked Jolly if he is "shocked by [DeSantis'] announcement this week that he would, quote, 'aggressively go after pardons for one six insurrectionists?'"

"No Mehdi, I say this with conviction. I think Ron DeSantis is far more dangerous than Donald Trump for a very specific reason," answered Jolly. "Donald Trump is willing to ignore the rules, ignore the Constitution, and frankly lead to the incitement of January six. But Donald Trump is a transactional figure and he’ll do whatever it takes to win.

"Ron DeSantis I believe actually in his ethos, is a cultural warrior who wants to take us back 100 years and believes he can use the Constitution to that end, and ultimately has a very dark vision of what America will be. So the idea of pardoning January six convicts, if you will, at this point, is because he believes we are engaged in a real war, that he has to win. Ron DeSantis tonight, a very dark figure on the political landscape, far more dangerous than Donald Trump."

Hasan wrapped up his segment with Jolly by poking fun at DeSantis' presidential run that was announced alongside Elon Musk, with Jolly quipping, "80, 90 years ago, FDR addressed millions of Americans on AM radio, but Elon Musk and Ron DeSantis couldn’t address a couple hundred thousand on Twitter spaces. A humiliating night for Ron DeSantis."