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WATCH: James Lindsay reveals Marxist indoctrination in American schools

Educators "raise political literacy using regular academic lessons as mediators to a political conversation as the justification to have one."

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Fresh off his reinstatement to Twitter, Dr. James Lindsay joined Ari Hoffman on Talk Radio 570 KVI on Tuesday to discuss his new book, "The Marxification of Education: Paulo Freire's Critical Marxism and the Theft of Education."

Hoffman asked Lindsay how Marxism has been woven into all aspects of the curriculum in schools. Lindsay explained that educators "raise political literacy using regular academic lessons as mediators to a political conversation as the justification to have one."



He used an example from a second second-grade problem. "Mom and dad are riding in the car together on the way to the amusement park. The amusement park is 50 miles away. They've driven 30 miles already. How much further do they have to go? Simple. Second grade, subtraction word problem. You probably did it in your head already and got the right answer. I did a talk in Charleston and there was a little kid…second, third grade raised his hand."

“"The teachers are taught then to reframe that, use it as a mediator of knowledge to have an equity conversation. So, they would say, 'Hey, kids, before we answer the question, how many of you ever been to an amusement park?'"

"Some kids raise their hand, some kids don't, and then they say, 'well, why? What are some reasons why some of you wouldn't have been able to go to an amusement park?' until some kid says not everybody can afford it, and now they're having a conversation about poverty," he continued.

"Or until some kid says, 'my parents just don't think I'm old enough.' Now you're having a question, a discussion about political or parental authority."

"Or they bring up the topic of 'do all of you go to places with your mom and dad? Tell us about your family.' And somebody says, 'I don't have a dad at home.' And now you're having a conversation about feminism. Somebody says, 'well, we have two moms.' Now you're having a conversation about sexuality."

"Is it good to go to an amusement park in a car just to have fun? Is that bad for the environment? Now you're having a conversation about environmentalism and you can just go on and on and on and generate, and that's the word Freire uses, 'generative topics,' political conversations, out of a completely benign curriculum."

"The goal is just to create excuses, to have political conversations with kids under the guise of getting them more engaged, more interested in the subject."

Hoffman replied, "Now it seems like so many people don't even realize why these kids can't read, write anything of that, do arithmetic because they're spending all their time doing this garbage."

Lindsay told Hoffman he wrote the book because "I got asked to write an affidavit about Paulo Freire and what he did with Education Theory for a lawsuit that was filed in Tennessee against a program called Wit and Wisdom that was breaking the law at bringing various woke things into schools."



"I wanted to expand it into something that other people could benefit from beyond just the lawsuit."

Lindsay added, "But I got sucked in and realized that this is one of the biggest catastrophes going on in society."

"I'm still reading Education Theory, still reading Paulo Freire and his acolytes and his followers, still reading documents from UNESCO and from USAID and from the NEA as the newest one. A huge document they just put out talking about retooling education to achieve the United Nations sustainable development goals using social-emotional learning."

"It turns out to be an extremely important topic with a lot of people that need to know about it. Primarily because not only does it affect our kids, which is a very, very serious issue, not to diminish that in any way, but to affect our kids is to affect our future generations as well, and thus to be able to subvert and destroy our society."
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